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Two Children Of Same Cruel Parent Look At One Another And See In Each Other The Image Of The Cruel Parent Or The Image Of Their Past Oppressor. This Is Very Much The Case Between Jew And Arab: It's A Conflict Between Two Victims.

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Amos Oz

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Two Children Of Same Cruel Parent Look At One Another And See In Each Other The Image Of The Cruel Parent Or The Image Of Their Past Oppressor. This Is Very Much The Case Between Jew And Arab: It's A Conflict Between Two Victims.

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Exclamation Points

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Black And White

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My Dream For Israel Is Peace, External And Internal Peace.

Never Cut Loose From Your Longings.

All My Novels Are Rooted In Their Time And In Their Place.

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The Actual Gap Between Labor, Likud And The New Central Party Is Microscopic.

My Dream Is Much More Modest Than The Dreams Of The Founding Fathers. My Dream Is For Israel To Live In Peace With Its Neighbors And At Peace With Itself. This Will Be Sufficient For Me.

Everybody Comes From Somewhere.

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Different Musical Instruments Provide For Different Music.

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Black And White

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Think About Elizabethan English, Where The Entire English Language Behaved Pretty Much Like Molten Lava, Like A Volcano In Mid-eruption. Modern Hebrew Has Some Things In Common With Elizabethan English. It Is Being Reshaped And It's Expanding Very Rapidly In Various Directions.

It Is Wrong To Take An 18-year-old Boy Or Girl And Arm Them With Machine Guns And Make Them The Almighty King Of Some Little Arab Village. No Young Man, And No Old Man Either, Should Have So Much Power Over The Life And Death Of So Many Helpless Individuals. It Is Corrupting. It Sometimes Provokes Desperate, Savage And Indiscriminate Violence Among The Occupied.

When I Need To Take A Side, I Write A Newspaper Article And I Tell My Government, "you Should Not Do That, You Should Do This." They Don't Listen To Me, But I've Been Doing This For Sixty Years Now. But, When I Write A Novel, I Am Not In That Business. I Follow The Way People Change. I Follow The Way People, Who Are Very Antagonized To One Another Become Very Close To One Another And Vice-versa. Sometimes I Follow The Way People Who Are Intimately Close To Each Other Move Apart.

When I Was Little, My Ambition Was To Grow Up To Be A Book. Not A Writer. People Can Be Killed Like Ants. Writers Are Not Hard To Kill Either. But Not Books: However Systematically You Try To Destroy Them, There Is Always A Chance That A Copy Will Survive And Continue To Enjoy A Shelf-life In Some Corner On An Out-of-the-way Library Somehwere In Reykjavik, Valladolid Or Vancouver.

Almost Without Exception, My Novels Are Rooted In Israel Because That's The Place I Know Well.

All My Novels Are Rooted In Their Time And In Their Place. The Place Of My Novels Is Israel, Almost Without Exception. Almost Without Exception, My Novels Are Rooted In Israel Because That's The Place I Know Well. And, That's My Gutsy Advice To Any Young Writer: Write Only About What You Know Well. Don't Write About That Which You Don't Know.

In The Same Way In Which Music Is Made Of Notes And A Painting Is Made Of Lines Of Colors, The Matter Of Literature Are Words.

The Six-day War Laid A Foundation Of Deep Hatred Toward Israel 50 Years Ago. I Said This At A Very Early Moment Back Then, When People Were Chanting About Liberating Ancestral Land. I Was Quick To Say That Regardless Of The Future Of These Territories, Liberated They Are Not, Because The Term Liberation Only Applies To Human Beings And Not To Land, Not To Real Estate.

This Bloody Conflict Has Been Going On For Much Too Long. It Is Doing Terrible Things To Israelis, To Palestinians. One Of The Terrible Things It Is Causing Is Indifference.

Literature Is About Telling Stories. Now, The Gift Of Literature Is That, In Some Lucky Cases, Reading A Novel Or A Story Makes The Reader More Curious, More Open-minded. It May Open A Third Eye In The Middle Of The Reader's Forehead.

I'm Not Sure I'm Happy With Words Such As "task" Or "role" When They Are Attached To Literature. I Prefer To Talk About The Gift Of Literature Rather Than Its Role Or Task. You Know, Gynecology Has A Role; Sex Is A Gift. And Literature Is Not About Sending Messages.

Israel Has Obviously Not Liberated The Palestinians In Gaza Or The West Bank. We Have Occupied Them, But We Have Not Liberated Them.

Many Intellectuals In America And In Europe, They Are In The Habit Of Taking Sides: Who Are The Bad Guys? Who Are The Good Guys? They Launch A Demonstration Against The Bad Guys, Sign A Petition In Favor Of The Good Guys, And Going To Sleep Feeling Well About Themselves. This Is Not The Case Here. The Israeli-palestinian Conflict Is A Tragedy; It Is A Clash Between Right And Right.

I Recommend The Art Of Slow Reading.

The Battlefield Is First And Foremost Horrible Stenches, Not Sights, Not Sounds, But Stenches. They Don't Travel Well Into Literature.

I Don't Write Novels About Expeditions To The Planet Mars Because I Haven't Been There And I Don't Know Anything About It.

Two Children Of Same Cruel Parent Look At One Another And See In Each Other The Image Of The Cruel Parent Or The Image Of Their Past Oppressor. This Is Very Much The Case Between Jew And Arab: It's A Conflict Between Two Victims.

No Human Being Really Begins On The Day Which Appears In The Passport As Their Date Of Birth. We All Begin Much Much Much Earlier.

The Dreams And The Visions Of The Israeli Founding Fathers, These Were Very Very Ambitious Dreams. They Were World Reformers. They Wanted To Create A New And Improved Kind Of Humanity, Or At Least, A New And Improved Jewish Society, A New And Improved Jewish Individual Human Being Here. The Whole Zionist Project Was Based On A Whole Spectrum Of Different And Even Conflicting Dreams And Visions.

"the State Of The Jews" Was Not A Title Of A Country. It Was A Title Of A Futuristic Novel.

In Many Ways, I Regard Sharon And Arafat As Birds Of A Feather.

There Are Certain Concepts, Which Exist In English, And Are Unthinkable, Untranslatable Into Hebrew And Vice Versa.

All You Can See, If You Look Through The Window - Everything You See Is A Fulfillment Of Dreams, Different Dreams.

I Prefer To Talk About The Gift Of Literature Rather Than Its Role Or Task.

The Far Right Is Saying To Us: Forget About The Two-state Solution, It Is Going To Be A Jewish State From The Coast To Jordan. The Left Wing Says You Have To Forget About Jewish Self-determination, You Will Have To Live As A Minority In An Arab State - Just Like The Whites In South Africa. The Key Word That Both Have In Mind Is That The Situation In The West Bank Is "irrevocable." It Is One Of The Words I Dislike The Most.

If People Are Pro-israel, They Are Pro-israel One-hundred-and-twenty Percent. If They Are Anti-israel Or Pro-palestinian, They Tend To Be Pro-palestinian One-hundred-and-twenty Percent. I Don't Think A Decent Person Has To Choose Between Being Pro-israel And Pro-palestine. I Think You Have To Be Pro-peace.

In Fact, Every One Of Us - Every Nation, Every Individual Begins Hundreds, Perhaps Thousands Of Years Prior To The Date That Appears In The Passport.

A Long War Is Degenerating - It Ruins The Mind And The Soul And Psyche Of Individuals And Nations.

There Is A Document In Every Novel In The World. Even In The Most Fantastic Novel, Even In Science Fiction, There Is A Documentary Side. But, This Side Is Not The Crux Of The Matter. I Don't Think A Novel's Main Donation, Main Gift, Is The Document. The Document Is There, But A Novel Goes Beyond Documentation. It Goes Into Opening A New Vista, Opening A New Perspective, Showing Familiar Things In An Unfamiliar Way.

I Don't Envy Netanyahu's Situation, Because I Think He Is In Hot Water. Obviously, This Man Has A Totally Different Sense Of Personal Morality Than Some Of Our Previous Political Leaders. What Would I Personally Like To See? I Would Like To See This Government Go Straight To Hell. And I Would Have Liked To Have Seen The Previous Government Go Straight To Hell.

Literature Belongs First And Foremost To The Language In Which It Is Being Written. The Very Same Book, Even If It Is Translated Very Accurately, Let's Say From Hebrew Into English Or From English Into Hebrew, Becomes A Different Book Because Language Is A Musical Instrument.

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