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To Be Clear, Civilization Is Not The Same As Society. Civilization Is A Specific, Hierarchical Organization Based On 'power Over.' Dismantling Civilization, Taking Down That Power Structure, Does Not Mean The End Of All Social Order. It Should Ultimately Mean More Justice, More Local Control, More Democracy, And More Human Rights, Not Less.

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To Be Clear, Civilization

Derrick Jensen

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To Be Clear, Civilization Is Not The Same As Society. Civilization Is A Specific, Hierarchical Organization Based On 'power Over.' Dismantling Civilization, Taking Down That Power Structure, Does Not Mean The End Of All Social Order. It Should Ultimately Mean More Justice, More Local Control, More Democracy, And More Human Rights, Not Less.

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Many Indians Have Told Me That The Most Basic Difference Between Western And Indigenous Ways Of Being Is That Westerners View The World As Dead, And Not As Filled With Speaking, Thinking, Feeling Subjects As Worthy And Valuable As Themselves.

To Reverse The Effects Of Civilization Would Destroy The Dreams Of A Lot Of People. There's No Way Around It. We Can Talk All We Want About Sustainability, But There's A Sense In Which It Doesn't Matter That These People's Dreams Are Based On, Embedded In, Intertwined With, And Formed By An Inherently Destructive Economic And Social System. Their Dreams Are Still Their Dreams. What Right Do I -- Or Does Anyone Else -- Have To Destroy Them. At The Same Time, What Right Do They Have To Destroy The World?

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When Dams Were Erected On The Columbia, Salmon Battered Themselves Against The Concrete, Trying To Return Home. I Expect No Less From Us. We Too Must Hurl Ourselves Against And Through The Literal And Metaphorical Concrete That Contains And Constrains Us, That Keeps Us From Talking About What Is Most Important To Us, That Keeps Us From Living The Way Our Bones Know We Can, That Bars Us From Our Home. It Only Takes One Person To Bring Down A Dam.

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Civilization Is Not And Can Never Be Sustainable.

All The Mega Corporations On The Planet Make Their Obscene Profits Off The Labor And Suffering Of Others, With Complete Disregard For The Effects On The Workers, Environment, And Future Generations. We Have A Straightforward Proposal: If They Want Public Money, We Want Public Control. It's That Simple.

Suffering Of Others

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Hope Is A Longing For A Future Condition Over Which You Have No Agency; It Means You Are Essentially Powerless.

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