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If You Want To Know What It Will Be Like When We Are More Deeply Into The Horizontal, Simply Go To One Of The Indian Casinos. The Native Americans, Who Stand For Vertical Thinking More Than Anyone Else In Our Culture, Have Been Setting Up Totally Flat Casinos For Honkies.

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If You Want To Know What It Will Be Like When We Are More Deeply Into The Horizontal, Simply Go To One Of The Indian Casinos. The Native Americans, Who Stand For Vertical Thinking More Than Anyone Else In Our Culture, Have Been Setting Up Totally Flat Casinos For Honkies.

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