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Because National Borders Are Eroding, Because Of The Growth Of Non-state Actors. It's A Different Kind Of A World. We Are Tied Down By A Tiny Little Country - Iraq. It's Amazing, Given The Disparity In Military Economic Strength. It's A World Where Most Of The Big Problems Spill Over National Boundaries, And There Are New Kinds Of Actors And We're Feeling Our Way As To How To Deal With Them.

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Because National Borders Are

Brent Scowcroft

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Because National Borders Are Eroding, Because Of The Growth Of Non-state Actors. It's A Different Kind Of A World. We Are Tied Down By A Tiny Little Country - Iraq. It's Amazing, Given The Disparity In Military Economic Strength. It's A World Where Most Of The Big Problems Spill Over National Boundaries, And There Are New Kinds Of Actors And We're Feeling Our Way As To How To Deal With Them.

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